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Show the booked efforts of a task in the task overview

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Aug 10, 2006
Mon Nov 29, 1999 11:00pm
Mon Nov 29, 1999 11:00pm
Aug 10, 2006 / burger
Jan 5, 2009 / phsouzacruz
 

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It would be great to see the previously booked efforts of each task in the task overview.

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pixtur:Separate View?

9 years ago (3. update 8 years ago)

A very easy solution for this would be to link the booked efforts of a task (in taskView -> details) to a filtered list of efforts (including details).

Would this be sufficient?

tom

burger:Explanation

9 years ago (3. update 8 years ago)

In the projViewTasks exists a column with the name 'Est/Compl'.
This column contains the estimated time and the degree of completion.

We would like to have another column with the name 'booked efforts' which contains the accumulated effort time (= sum of all booked efforts up to now).

So you can directly compare the estimated time / degree of completion with the booked efforts.

pixtur:This depends

9 years ago (5. update 9 years ago)

Adding this row for "normal" tasks is trivial (about 10 minutes of work).

Trade-Offs:
  • Not all user might be interessted in this information (I am hesitant at making the interface more complex).
  • It's a hell of a lot more complecated to list those information for folders (see )
  • Sorting for this row might be tricky.
Best would be a way to finetune the layout of tables for each user (just with ThunderBird).

If you really need the column, I can sent you a modification.

tom


burger:Comment

9 years ago (2. update 9 years ago)

We don't want something special or complicated. ;)
But I think, this will be useful not only for us, but many teams using streber.

In principal we only would like to have an expansion of the present lists ( = one more column).

In the moment each task or folder has its own milestone relation, estimated time, degree of completion etc. A folder doesn't reflect the information of its tasks and you can book some effort on a task or a folder.
So it would be only logically to add a column with the summed up efforts of each single task or folder?

I think, it helps the PM a lot, to see how much of the estimated time for a task or folder is reached regardeless of the degree of completion.
It's not unusual for a task to surpass the estimated time and still have only 60% or so completed. ;)

In a further milestone we could add some "warning", if some percentage of the estimated time is reached, but the degree of completion is not corresponding. Then the PM can react on this much faster.


pixtur:Two possibilities

9 years ago (3. update 9 years ago)

I see to possible solutions for this problem:

First:Hackπ

Add a special solution for this problem only. There already is a column "task_efforts" that does just what you need:

Just add a line to lists/list_tasks.inc.php:

from lists/list_tasks.inc.php

        $this->add_col( new ListBlockCol_Milestone);
        $this->add_col( new ListBlockCol_EstimatedComplete);
        $this->add_col( new ListBlockCol_DaysLeft);
        $this->add_col( new ListBlockColPubLevel());
        $this->add_col( new ListBlockCol_TaskSumEfforts());  ### add this line

But this solution is so slow, that it is not preferable for all users.


Second:Long termπ

  • Implement user customization
  • Implement caching of booked efforts (I still believe that booked efforts for task folders have to summed up).

tom

burger:Reply

9 years ago

See

burger:Comment

8 years ago

Why did you remove the effort col?

I thought it was quiet nice :-).

pixtur:Sorry...

8 years ago

I tought it was too slow... Have have to turn into an config-option ala:

confGet("COLUMN_TASK_EFFORT_SUM");

tom

burger:Question

8 years ago (2. update 8 years ago)

I have a question related to ListBlockCol_TaskSumEfforts.

You mentioned at that you have no idea how to deal with folders which shows a filtered list of e.g. subtasks (= not all tasks; some tasks are e.g. hidden to the user) and their summed up efforts.

My question is if you already found a solution for this problem?
I would like to know this in relation to because I implemented the page where only the tasks of the selected person are shown and there is the same problem with the folder and the summed up efforts (at the tree view).



pixtur:I have no idea...

8 years ago

The only possibility I see is to sum up ALL efforts and risk that it does not match with the visible tasks. But actually I do not think that this features is required if you implement the effort summary page as suggested. Than all details about such things can be assembled on this page. This has the slightly benefit, that this page is also only visible for people, who can see all tasks.